Comments on: Fenqing out of control http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/ Observations about China from beyond the Middle Kingdom Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:19:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Mongol Warrior http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/comment-page-1/#comment-164 Mongol Warrior Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:12:24 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/#comment-164 China has laws that suit China's situation at this time, the West has laws that suit the situation in the West at this time. There is no double-standard in Chinese protesting in the West, while protest in China is perhaps more difficult. The principle is simply to respect the law of the country you are currently in. Furthermore Chinese arguing that Tibet is a part of China, while in the West is not a significant indication of free speech. After all the Chinese protesters position is pro-Western government policy. All Western governments recognize Tibet to be part of China. I'm sure that China would not have much problem in Americans in China demonstrating and supporting California as part of the US. China has laws that suit China’s situation at this time, the West has laws that suit the situation in the West at this time.
There is no double-standard in Chinese protesting in the West, while protest in China is perhaps more difficult. The principle is simply to respect the law of the country you are currently in.

Furthermore Chinese arguing that Tibet is a part of China, while in the West is not a significant indication of free speech. After all the Chinese protesters position is pro-Western government policy. All Western governments recognize Tibet to be part of China.
I’m sure that China would not have much problem in Americans in China demonstrating and supporting California as part of the US.

]]> By: Mongol Warrior http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/comment-page-1/#comment-163 Mongol Warrior Fri, 25 Apr 2008 02:07:49 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/#comment-163 Tibetan culture has been preserved in a way that Westerners have never managed for their respective indigenenous folk. Tibetans are still 90 percent of Tibet, whereas Native Americans are 2percent of American population. Australian Aborigines have a life expectancy of 59.6 years, Tibetans 67 . Tibetans are not restricted by the one-child policy. There is a dual track education system in Tibet - Tibetans can choose to study in Mandarin or Tibetan (as do all other significantly large minority groups). Do the Aborigines of Australia, the Maoris of New Zealand have this. Tibetan economic disparity compared to Han is not due to deliberate government policy but cultural differences - just like why Han Chinese in Indonesia and Malaysia have economic clout way out of proportion to their numbers in those places. Both Tibetan population and life expectancy have doubled since 1950. If that is geneocide, looks like we will need to be finding a new definiation of the term Tibetan culture has been preserved in a way that Westerners have never managed for their respective indigenenous folk. Tibetans are still 90 percent of Tibet, whereas Native Americans are 2percent of American population. Australian Aborigines have a life expectancy of 59.6 years, Tibetans 67 . Tibetans are not restricted by the one-child policy.
There is a dual track education system in Tibet – Tibetans can choose to study in Mandarin or Tibetan (as do all other significantly large minority groups). Do the Aborigines of Australia, the Maoris of New Zealand have this. Tibetan economic disparity compared to Han is not due to deliberate government policy but cultural differences – just like why Han Chinese in Indonesia and Malaysia have economic clout way out of proportion to their numbers in those places.
Both Tibetan population and life expectancy have doubled since 1950. If that is geneocide, looks like we will need to be finding a new definiation of the term

]]> By: Monica http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/comment-page-1/#comment-101 Monica Sat, 19 Apr 2008 02:15:57 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/#comment-101 Stuart, "By the way, the Olympic is the world’s Olympic, not only China’s.” I am reminding almost everyone around me of that fact and most of them agree with that. "The window has been closed on Tibetan culture since 1951" The Tibitetan has beeen liberated from slavery since 1951 and most of us respect their culture. The government's opinion doesn't always stand for the people's opinion. Besides, The Tibiten shares more rights than us, for example, they can have three children but we can have only one; they can go to university with a much lower score than us. Stuart,

“By the way, the Olympic is the world’s Olympic, not only China’s.”

I am reminding almost everyone around me of that fact and most of them agree with that.

“The window has been closed on Tibetan culture since 1951″

The Tibitetan has beeen liberated from slavery since 1951 and most of us respect their culture. The government’s opinion doesn’t always stand for the people’s opinion. Besides, The Tibiten shares more rights than us, for example, they can have three children but we can have only one; they can go to university with a much lower score than us.

]]> By: stuart http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/comment-page-1/#comment-100 stuart Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:33:19 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/#comment-100 Monica - "By the way, the Olympic is the world’s Olympic, not only China’s." Somebody needs to remind China of that fact. "The protesters are doing nothing more than closing the window." The window has been closed on Tibetan culture since 1951. Western countries give people - including Chinese - the right to protest and express their opinions freely. They have been happy to do that on foreign soil recently. Monica -
“By the way, the Olympic is the world’s Olympic, not only China’s.”

Somebody needs to remind China of that fact.

“The protesters are doing nothing more than closing the window.”

The window has been closed on Tibetan culture since 1951. Western countries give people – including Chinese – the right to protest and express their opinions freely. They have been happy to do that on foreign soil recently.

]]> By: Monica http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/comment-page-1/#comment-99 Monica Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:00:20 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/2008/04/18/fenqing-out-of-control/#comment-99 "Fenqing out of control" ? Yes, "Fenqing were out of control in 1989 too. By the way, the Olympic is the world's Olympic, not only China's. Although there are many problems in China, the protesters shouldn't use Olympic as a tool to fight against China. There were riots in Paris too several ago, but we didn't interfere in that riots because that's their own affair. But nowadays they are interfering in Tibet affair-our own affair. Olympic is a window for us to know more about the world as well as a window for West to know more about China. The protesters are doing nothing more than closing the window. “Fenqing out of control” ? Yes, “Fenqing were out of control in 1989 too.

By the way, the Olympic is the world’s Olympic, not only China’s. Although there are many problems in China, the protesters shouldn’t use Olympic as a tool to fight against China.

There were riots in Paris too several ago, but we didn’t interfere in that riots because that’s their own affair. But nowadays they are interfering in Tibet affair-our own affair.

Olympic is a window for us to know more about the world as well as a window for West to know more about China. The protesters are doing nothing more than closing the window.

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