Comments on: It’s time http://foundinchina.com/2008/06/04/its-time/ Observations about China from beyond the Middle Kingdom Thu, 11 Mar 2010 00:22:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: On the anniversary of China’s greatest lie, Hong Kong stands up | Foundinchina.com http://foundinchina.com/2008/06/04/its-time/comment-page-1/#comment-4338 On the anniversary of China’s greatest lie, Hong Kong stands up | Foundinchina.com Wed, 03 Jun 2009 08:07:09 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=101#comment-4338 [...] Don’t forget to light your candles. [...] [...] Don’t forget to light your candles. [...]

]]> By: A reminder of dark Times | Foundinchina.com http://foundinchina.com/2008/06/04/its-time/comment-page-1/#comment-2820 A reminder of dark Times | Foundinchina.com Sat, 11 Apr 2009 23:20:27 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=101#comment-2820 [...] Read that last bit again. The “revulsion for the regime” has been swept away through repression and propaganda to the extent that today’s Chinese youth (and most of their parents) thank the regime for saving them from criminals. The rest of us aren’t so easily fooled. Get ready to remember. [...] [...] Read that last bit again. The “revulsion for the regime” has been swept away through repression and propaganda to the extent that today’s Chinese youth (and most of their parents) thank the regime for saving them from criminals. The rest of us aren’t so easily fooled. Get ready to remember. [...]

]]> By: Shaday http://foundinchina.com/2008/06/04/its-time/comment-page-1/#comment-448 Shaday Tue, 10 Jun 2008 18:00:57 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=101#comment-448 @Linan To cut out free speech because of problems with media coverage of the facts is like cutting the head of a person because of a headache. Media coverage is and will always be subjective. How subjective it is is a boundary we cannot impose to all media. We can give better choices of more objective media, promote it, fight for it, but it shouldn't be imposed, because it would always fail to cover everything in single articles that don't take a whole newspaper. Subjectivity is unavoidable. Basically, on one side you got free media with subjective coverage, and on the other you got censored, limited media with subjective coverage. Explain how the latter looks better than the former. Wikipedia wouldn't be my ideal example of an alternative, even though I love Wikipedia and I feel so relaxed that I can access it without freely outside of China. Yes, it may be low cost, but Wikipedia is still edited as any article is and is till relying on one article, even though it tends to cover the main points of view and it gives you links to other sources (something that should be done more). My choice would be RSS feeds reading pages like Google Reader. There you can access blogs, main newspapers, Wikipedia, small newspapers, you name, as long as it has RSS subscription. Like that you can browse all kinds of media, including media with your web application. I don't think all news articles are written with the structure of a story. I think most aren't, unless you just mean that they are like stories because they have cause-effects logic, which is not typically of a story structure, but of an essay structure. Eliminate cause-effects logic and you got holes on the why, which if it doesn't have a clear answer, it should be presented as a mystery. As it often happens, reports on events choose one of the possible causes or answers to the why, but the asking of why is natural and it shouldn't be imposed nor censored. How you ask why is also something which, as all, falls to subjectivity. It would be nice to see your web application project. Still, whichever it is, it shouldn't be a model to impose. Essays, blogs, loose comments, article and blog threads, story-like news articles, straight-report articles, in the end, they're all part of the banquet of media that we should have, instead of a strict diet or model of eating (writing) chosen by some most possibly according to their benefit. @Stuart Sorry for the digression... @Linan
To cut out free speech because of problems with media coverage of the facts is like cutting the head of a person because of a headache. Media coverage is and will always be subjective. How subjective it is is a boundary we cannot impose to all media. We can give better choices of more objective media, promote it, fight for it, but it shouldn’t be imposed, because it would always fail to cover everything in single articles that don’t take a whole newspaper. Subjectivity is unavoidable.

Basically, on one side you got free media with subjective coverage, and on the other you got censored, limited media with subjective coverage. Explain how the latter looks better than the former.

Wikipedia wouldn’t be my ideal example of an alternative, even though I love Wikipedia and I feel so relaxed that I can access it without freely outside of China. Yes, it may be low cost, but Wikipedia is still edited as any article is and is till relying on one article, even though it tends to cover the main points of view and it gives you links to other sources (something that should be done more).

My choice would be RSS feeds reading pages like Google Reader. There you can access blogs, main newspapers, Wikipedia, small newspapers, you name, as long as it has RSS subscription. Like that you can browse all kinds of media, including media with your web application.

I don’t think all news articles are written with the structure of a story. I think most aren’t, unless you just mean that they are like stories because they have cause-effects logic, which is not typically of a story structure, but of an essay structure.

Eliminate cause-effects logic and you got holes on the why, which if it doesn’t have a clear answer, it should be presented as a mystery. As it often happens, reports on events choose one of the possible causes or answers to the why, but the asking of why is natural and it shouldn’t be imposed nor censored. How you ask why is also something which, as all, falls to subjectivity.

It would be nice to see your web application project. Still, whichever it is, it shouldn’t be a model to impose. Essays, blogs, loose comments, article and blog threads, story-like news articles, straight-report articles, in the end, they’re all part of the banquet of media that we should have, instead of a strict diet or model of eating (writing) chosen by some most possibly according to their benefit.

@Stuart

Sorry for the digression…

]]> By: justrecently http://foundinchina.com/2008/06/04/its-time/comment-page-1/#comment-445 justrecently Mon, 09 Jun 2008 06:17:16 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=101#comment-445 Who robbed whom in 1997? Is the West referred to as a "robber" in this context? Is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suharto" rel="nofollow">Suharto</a> (RIP)? Who robbed whom in 1997? Is the West referred to as a “robber” in this context? Is Suharto (RIP)?

]]> By: stuart http://foundinchina.com/2008/06/04/its-time/comment-page-1/#comment-444 stuart Mon, 09 Jun 2008 04:44:32 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=101#comment-444 <i>It appears to me that the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis has never been on your radar. Check it out if you have spare time. </i> Of course it has - I was thrown by "...southeast Asian was robbed in 1997". :) It appears to me that the 1997 Asian Financial Crisis has never been on your radar. Check it out if you have spare time.

Of course it has – I was thrown by “…southeast Asian was robbed in 1997″. :)

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