Comments on: James Fallows: debunking Obama’s China ‘failure’. http://foundinchina.com/2009/11/23/james-fallows-debunking-obamas-china-failure/ Observations about China from beyond the Middle Kingdom Wed, 25 Aug 2010 20:19:49 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Seeing the light: China supports resolution on Iran | Foundinchina.com http://foundinchina.com/2009/11/23/james-fallows-debunking-obamas-china-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-7627 Seeing the light: China supports resolution on Iran | Foundinchina.com Thu, 26 Nov 2009 05:29:24 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=976#comment-7627 [...] like Obama’s approach to US-China relations is yielding results after [...] [...] like Obama’s approach to US-China relations is yielding results after [...]

]]> By: Neddy http://foundinchina.com/2009/11/23/james-fallows-debunking-obamas-china-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-7619 Neddy Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:55:33 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=976#comment-7619 About that source thing: I meant Fallows refers to H. French in his series, briefly, and it is my impression he is referring to the article I linked. In the meantime, another op-ed appears in NYT, this one from the "sky is falling" camp. Or perhaps the author (Ying Chan, director of the Journalism and Media Studies Center at The University of Hong Kong) has some other reason to blow this particular trumpet: "Obama Loses a Round" http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/25/opinion/25iht-edying.html?_r=1 I had to laugh, his words brought to mind what Howard French wrote to the effect of "And what should have Obama done? A Kruschev?". You see, I am ancient enough to remember that shoe tantrum! About that source thing: I meant Fallows refers to H. French in his series, briefly, and it is my impression he is referring to the article I linked.

In the meantime, another op-ed appears in NYT, this one from the “sky is falling” camp. Or perhaps the author (Ying Chan, director of the Journalism and Media Studies Center at The University of Hong Kong) has some other reason to blow this particular trumpet:
“Obama Loses a Round”
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/11/25/opinion/25iht-edying.html?_r=1
I had to laugh, his words brought to mind what Howard French wrote to the effect of “And what should have Obama done? A Kruschev?”. You see, I am ancient enough to remember that shoe tantrum!

]]> By: stuart http://foundinchina.com/2009/11/23/james-fallows-debunking-obamas-china-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-7616 stuart Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:18:37 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=976#comment-7616 @ James Fallows was critical of the negative coverage of Obama's trip <i>before</i> he began running the 'insiders' perspective. Further, the source isn't trying to spin the trip as a success he's just explaining the complexity of the issues involved and the longer term strategy in play, as well as the difficulties in agreeing the formats of events when negotiating with the Chinese. Plus other stuff. You should read it. @ James

Fallows was critical of the negative coverage of Obama’s trip before he began running the ‘insiders’ perspective. Further, the source isn’t trying to spin the trip as a success he’s just explaining the complexity of the issues involved and the longer term strategy in play, as well as the difficulties in agreeing the formats of events when negotiating with the Chinese. Plus other stuff.

You should read it.

]]> By: stuart http://foundinchina.com/2009/11/23/james-fallows-debunking-obamas-china-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-7615 stuart Tue, 24 Nov 2009 22:04:25 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=976#comment-7615 Thanks for that link, Neddy. So Howard French is Fallows' source? I'm just about to take a look. Thanks for that link, Neddy. So Howard French is Fallows’ source? I’m just about to take a look.

]]> By: Neddy http://foundinchina.com/2009/11/23/james-fallows-debunking-obamas-china-failure/comment-page-1/#comment-7612 Neddy Tue, 24 Nov 2009 14:59:49 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=976#comment-7612 Well, the final installment is out. No need for linking here, your readers can find it via links you already gave us. But what I really recommend is that everyone truly interested reads, in full, Howard French's piece "Not For All the News in China" http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/not_for_all_the_news_in_china.php It is from this article where Fallows' quote(s) of French come from. And it is a priceless stuff, and food for thought. Well, the final installment is out. No need for linking here, your readers can find it via links you already gave us.
But what I really recommend is that everyone truly interested reads, in full, Howard French’s piece “Not For All the News in China”
http://www.cjr.org/campaign_desk/not_for_all_the_news_in_china.php
It is from this article where Fallows’ quote(s) of French come from. And it is a priceless stuff, and food for thought.

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