Comments on: Google awakes to the China reality http://foundinchina.com/2010/01/13/google-awakes-to-the-china-reality/ Observations about China from beyond the Middle Kingdom Sat, 03 Dec 2011 15:00:15 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.2 By: MAC http://foundinchina.com/2010/01/13/google-awakes-to-the-china-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-8360 MAC Mon, 18 Jan 2010 14:10:23 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=1060#comment-8360 “Could you confirm that google does not cooperate with CIA and FBI in its spying of any country and individual? " As far as I know, many countries(if not all) , have tools to monitor(or eavesdrop) on any communication traffic either legally or illegally within legal framework of each country. If google cooperates with US government or some governments and not others then google is fair game in the world of espionage and spying to those governments with whom google does not cooperate. No amount of moral posturing is going to change that. “Could you confirm that google does not cooperate with CIA and FBI in its spying of any country and individual? ”

As far as I know, many countries(if not all) , have tools to monitor(or eavesdrop) on any communication traffic either legally or illegally within legal framework of each country. If google cooperates with US government or some governments and not others then google is fair game in the world of espionage and spying to those governments with whom google does not cooperate. No amount of moral posturing is going to change that.

]]> By: stuart http://foundinchina.com/2010/01/13/google-awakes-to-the-china-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-8359 stuart Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:20:21 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=1060#comment-8359 @ Neddy I read that over coffee this morning. Very good by Mackinnon as usual. @ Neddy

I read that over coffee this morning. Very good by Mackinnon as usual.

]]> By: stuart http://foundinchina.com/2010/01/13/google-awakes-to-the-china-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-8358 stuart Mon, 18 Jan 2010 04:17:47 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=1060#comment-8358 "Could you confirm that google does not cooperate with CIA and FBI in its spying of any country and individual? if you know that is." I do not know, MAC. Therefore, I cannot confirm. “Could you confirm that google does not cooperate with CIA and FBI in its spying of any country and individual? if you know that is.”

I do not know, MAC. Therefore, I cannot confirm.

]]> By: Neddy http://foundinchina.com/2010/01/13/google-awakes-to-the-china-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-8356 Neddy Mon, 18 Jan 2010 03:13:00 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=1060#comment-8356 While we are waiting for stuart to respond, we could all do worse than read this article by Rebecca MacKinnon: "Google, China, and the future of freedom on the global Internet" http://rconversation.blogs.com/rconversation/2010/01/google-china-and-the-future-of-freedom-on-the-global-internet.html Yes, by the very person referred to as being "nutty" (#6, above) because her take does not fit the "life, universe and everything according to Juche" story. The piece is longish, but relevant to what we are trying to debate here. While we are waiting for stuart to respond, we could all do worse than read this article by Rebecca MacKinnon:
“Google, China, and the future of freedom on the global Internet”

http://rconversation.blogs.com/rconversation/2010/01/google-china-and-the-future-of-freedom-on-the-global-internet.html

Yes, by the very person referred to as being “nutty” (#6, above) because her take does not fit the “life, universe and everything according to Juche” story.
The piece is longish, but relevant to what we are trying to debate here.

]]> By: MAC http://foundinchina.com/2010/01/13/google-awakes-to-the-china-reality/comment-page-1/#comment-8354 MAC Mon, 18 Jan 2010 02:22:41 +0000 http://foundinchina.com/?p=1060#comment-8354 @stuart "I think there is a lot of integrity about the way Google does business, including the fair and considerate treatment of its staff around the world. In this respect Google is indeed a friend of China. And you correctly point out that Google is doing people a service by challenging censorship. " Could you confirm that google does not cooperate with CIA and FBI in its spying of any country and individual? if you know that is. @stuart
“I think there is a lot of integrity about the way Google does business, including the fair and considerate treatment of its staff around the world. In this respect Google is indeed a friend of China. And you correctly point out that Google is doing people a service by challenging censorship. ”

Could you confirm that google does not cooperate with CIA and FBI in its spying of any country and individual? if you know that is.

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